--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "Mark S. Fitton" wrote:
> Speaking for myself, I refuse to let another lawyer/liability
mentality
> creep into this enjoyment. The way that society has let personal
> responsibility mean nothing any more is pathetic. Any fool who goes
into a
> situation they don't know, while ill-equipped, should be personally
> responsible for their activities. When it becomes other's
responsibility to
> protect total strangers from themselves then we have failed as a
people.
>
>
> Mark

When we feel no compassion for anybody but our own than we aren't
people, we're animals! Read the bible - Even the sinners love those
who love them.

Alright folks.

Bible, Darwinism, responsibility to society, etc, is beginning to
drift a bit off-topic. I feel as strongly about these issues as
the next fellow and would love to debate them off-list, but their
relationship to letterboxing is becoming tangential at best.

I don't care if the debate keeps going, (although it has the signature
of a holy war in and of itself and this might be a good time for it to
die as well), but lets keep the scripture quoting and Darwinistic
views to a minimum. This list is the wrong forum for that debate to
erupt.

Randy
List manager

on 5/30/01 8:34 PM, jrovetto@baysidegroup.net at jrovetto@baysidegroup.net
wrote:

>
> When we feel no compassion for anybody but our own than we aren't
> people, we're animals! Read the bible - Even the sinners love those
> who love them.

I'm confused... are your remarks a warning that we need to protect ourselves
from lawyers, or simply to make it all so easy that no one fails, or has to
work at letterboxing????

Let's see if I understand how America works lately . . .

If a woman burns her thighs on the hot coffee she was holding in her lap
while driving, she blames the restaurant.

If your teen-age son kills himself, you blame the rock 'n' roll music or
musician he liked.

If you smoke three packs a day for 40 years and die of lung cancer, your
family blames the tobacco company.

If your daughter gets pregnant by the football captain, you blame the
school for poor sex education.

If your neighbor crashes into a tree while driving home drunk, you blame
the bartender.

If your cousin gets AIDS because the needle he used to shoot up with
heroin was dirty, you blame the government for not providing clean ones.

If your grandchildren are brats without manners, you blame television.

If your friend is shot by a deranged madman, you blame the gun
manufacturer.

And if a crazed person breaks into the cockpit and tries to kill the
pilots at 35,000 feet, and the passengers kill him instead, the
mother of the deceased blames the airline.

I must have lived too long to understand the world as it is anymore.
So if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this
computer,
I want you to blame Bill Gates, OK?



Glenn


(not my work, I stole it I just don't know where - Glenn)

on 5/30/01 8:53 PM, Glenn at Glenn.Hansen@usa.net wrote:

> So if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this
> computer,
> I want you to blame Bill Gates, OK?

I generally blame Bill Gates for most everything anyway...


and on that note, I am signing off on this topic.


hopefully

yeah randy!!!

Randy Hall wrote:

> Alright folks.
>
> Bible, Darwinism, responsibility to society, etc, is beginning to
> drift a bit off-topic. I feel as strongly about these issues as
> the next fellow and would love to debate them off-list, but their
> relationship to letterboxing is becoming tangential at best.
>
> I don't care if the debate keeps going, (although it has the signature
> of a holy war in and of itself and this might be a good time for it to
> die as well), but lets keep the scripture quoting and Darwinistic
> views to a minimum. This list is the wrong forum for that debate to
> erupt.
>
> Randy
> List manager
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At 09:47 AM 5/31/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Subject: Re: Here to Safety
>
>--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "Mark S. Fitton" wrote:
> > Speaking for myself, I refuse to let another lawyer/liability
>mentality
> > creep into this enjoyment. The way that society has let personal
> > responsibility mean nothing any more is pathetic. Any fool who goes
>into a
> > situation they don't know, while ill-equipped, should be personally
> > responsible for their activities. When it becomes other's
>responsibility to
> > protect total strangers from themselves then we have failed as a
>people.
> >
> >
> > Mark
>
>When we feel no compassion for anybody but our own than we aren't
>people, we're animals! Read the bible - Even the sinners love those
>who love them.

I would appreciate it if you wouldn't turn my words around to try and make
it look like I'm saying something I'm not. This isn't some political
discussion board after all. Sir, you have grossly over reacted to something
that your own admitted stupidity caused. Now you want to put the fear of
lawsuits where previously it has never been. And when you are taken to task
for your over reaction, you then start turning people's words around to
make them look bad. You have crossed the line. I was only saying that when
there is no longer any personal responsibility we have failed as a people.
You want compassion for your fellow man, I'm your man. You don't know me
from a whole in the wall and I would appreciate you not getting personal
anymore. Thank you.


Mark